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rob 2
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 Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:06 am Post subject: yeah |
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Bmw owner friend of mine was going to buy a new BMW till he found they have tyres that if puntured you can still drive 150ks. But the snag is only the agents can repair it and you do not have a spare wheel.
Going out of twon seemed not an option..
The cost to repair could be $400 or to replace was $1,000 so he bought a holdem/
He does have a Bmw and said never had a flat in 144,000klms anyway. |
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country_gal
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| Quote: | | No surprises with the costs with their market being people with money,not till they are getting on and demands slows the prices of parts become more realistic.Still prefer the silver over the purple,more elegant lines |
I can't agree with that, not going on prices in N.Z. The costing I did on BMW parts against Holden wasn't that long ago, BMW came out the winner.
If you take a look around you, you will see quite a few of the younger generation driving the earlier BMW's, they sure don't look like monied people to me. I doubt if BMW policy is, 'we'll reduce the cost of parts for the older models,' yere right.
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stronghotcoffee
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| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| country_gal wrote: | | Quote: | | No surprises with the costs with their market being people with money,not till they are getting on and demands slows the prices of parts become more realistic.Still prefer the silver over the purple,more elegant lines |
I can't agree with that, not going on prices in N.Z. The costing I did on BMW parts against Holden wasn't that long ago, BMW came out the winner.
If you take a look around you, you will see quite a few of the younger generation driving the earlier BMW's, they sure don't look like monied people to me. I doubt if BMW policy is, 'we'll reduce the cost of parts for the older models,' yere right. |
OPSM has a special on this week,what rock you been under if you do not realise that BMW's target market is people with above average incomes? On average BMW parts are more expensive than holden parts,the shipping and exchange rate the killer and the biggie of cheap parts not going with BMW'S BS image.Keen on seeing your facts.
I'm not talking about young try hard's pretending they got money driving old 80's 318 and 320's beamers that you can pick up for $1500,I'm talking what their target market is new.Got nothing do to with BMW policy but simple supply and demand.Who can afford to pay more for a replacement headlight between a new car buyer of a BMW and a Hyundai? Obvious isn't it? Do some car manufactures play on this,cause they do just like every other thing out there in the western world where money lurks.They over rated,BMW's its just a car slogan is bang on.Some models drop cambelts more often than pam anderson drops her draws.
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rob 2
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: yeah |
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Strong hot coffee.
I did enjoy your post on beamer.
But properly serviced they are like OPEL a dream to driive.
Genuine parts are expensive. But the after market parts made in oz and else where make it more in line with HOLDEN PARTS. I was a Mechanic with HOLDEN and find now in this day and age the manufacturer gets the parts made by out saucing as many Holden parts are made by the same troup the will make other car manufacturers parts. Buying direct from the parts manufsacturer instead of the rebrands dear genuine but exactly the same parts is weird A? |
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craig
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| stronghotcoffee wrote: | | country_gal wrote: | | Quote: | | No surprises with the costs with their market being people with money,not till they are getting on and demands slows the prices of parts become more realistic.Still prefer the silver over the purple,more elegant lines |
I can't agree with that, not going on prices in N.Z. The costing I did on BMW parts against Holden wasn't that long ago, BMW came out the winner.
If you take a look around you, you will see quite a few of the younger generation driving the earlier BMW's, they sure don't look like monied people to me. I doubt if BMW policy is, 'we'll reduce the cost of parts for the older models,' yere right. |
OPSM has a special on this week,what rock you been under if you do not realise that BMW's target market is people with above average incomes? On average BMW parts are more expensive than holden parts,the shipping and exchange rate the killer and the biggie of cheap parts not going with BMW'S BS image.Keen on seeing your facts.
I'm not talking about young try hard's pretending they got money driving old 80's 318 and 320's beamers that you can pick up for $1500,I'm talking what their target market is new.Got nothing do to with BMW policy but simple supply and demand.Who can afford to pay more for a replacement headlight between a new car buyer of a BMW and a Hyundai? Obvious isn't it? Do some car manufactures play on this,cause they do just like every other thing out there in the western world where money lurks.They over rated,BMW's its just a car slogan is bang on.Some models drop cambelts more often than pam anderson drops her draws. |
I actually completely agree with you here.
I know quite a few people who drive BMW's who are not in the wealthy bracket that BMW usually target, The cost of a good second hand BMW car has declined recently to the point where i am looking at making BMW my next car i own. I am not rolling in cash, but having seen what they go for and generally what sort of repairs they need and what the cost is they just seem like any other manufacturer, only a much classier brand.
I imagine things are different here though because i live in Scotland, which is in Europe and not too far from Germany, so any genuine German BMW parts will be cheaper to own than those made in the UK. Infact, i would be surprised if any part you buy here is not originally German as it would make no sense making parts in the UK when both countries are part of the EU and therefore probably don't have the same sort of import/export tax that countries out with the EU have.
Rob, i had no idea you used to be a mechanic for Holden. I should have joined this site earlier on when i was in Australia with my Holden as there were a few problems with it prior to me selling it. Still a fantastic car though. It was a 1991 Holden VN Commodore, i wasn't sure if i mentioned it anywhere. I absolutely loved driving this car.
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stronghotcoffee
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Comprehension people, a target market is set on new cars not second hand ROFLMFAO.Ok ok you can get new shopping cart beamers that do not cost hundreds of thousands of dollars but these little hatchbacks will be without looking at least $10,000 more than an equivalent sized jappa.Then you can go right up the top to beamers where BMW are asking several hundreds of thousands of dollars,making their medium car price throughout their range well and truly above average.
Here's the price details on an entry level sedan,don't bother clicking the link cause BMW New Zealand site has a fault.Ironic with the price of their cars and image they try and project.
http://www.bmw.co.nz/view/3/bmw-3-series-models/sedan-update/overview.aspx
Good old kiwi site comes up with the goods, if you cannot see by the prices that BMW's target market is people with above average incomes I don't know what you are on?
http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/new-car-prices
After market parts could very well be in england,not BMW's business if some english punter thinks he can make a bob selling replacement parts.Go with the most reliable car manufacturers you can get which is the japanese,do you think they are the largest car manufactures in the world cause they put out a poor product and there is no demand for it.Any european car that cost $100,000 will be worth 1/5 of its value in 5 years.Like the UK no one wants them when they are over 5 years old, why is this ?
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country_gal
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I remember all the throw away cars the Japs made, no doubt still do, so many models you couldn't get parts for, drive them out of the dealers yard and they were worth nothing.
As far as the cost of parts is concerned, I speak as I find.
I prefer quality as many do, and quality you pay for, stiff that you can't afford it.
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stronghotcoffee
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Quoting 1960's Japanese cars, basing BMW's target market on people like yourself getting around in 21 year old beamers.Not aware of how much a beamer is worth once you drive it out of the dealers showroom,makes a japanese car depression look like its been caught in a price freeze in comparison.Quality you pay for? Half of what you paying for with a beamer is based on hype,get Toyota's level entry Corolla and it will out do any BMW for reliability and money spent on repairs.
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My friends Subraru gear box blew up this week and thats 1200$ to fix, cars are expensive
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