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FPV Totara

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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: Supercharged Police Cars |
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"Supercharged Police Cars" now you talking Rob. Surely not past New Zealand Ecilop's ?
Supercharging way togo eh ? Instant power straight off the crank, why holden supercharged their V6 once upon a time - would not have pulled the skin off a rice pudding with out one.
You had much to do with superchargers Rob ? Ever fitted one ? Whats the name of the supercharger that is "The Berries" from the states that starts with W - Wonin or something similar ? Mad Max had one fitted to the mighty XA Falcon Coupe  _________________ The greatest worth is self-mastery |
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rob 2 Totara

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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: yeah |
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Now Paxton was on Studebarker. It was a strange rotary type.
Studebaker even put 2 on the Ducenti motor and it did 2000mph in 1957.
Studebaker built a carburettor that was pressure fed with air.
Now Commer had a Rootes supercharger that was a roller type they have less friction than the vane type.
Keeping the oil up to the bearings is important though.
On the road one has to make sure there is no effect say below or on 30 mph.
Then the bearings are not under load and it will idle well.
Then the STD compression ratio must be 7 or 8 to one at the most.
You do not want it stalling at the lights.
Over 30 mph it is all go. You need plenty of gears if manual.
Whip into low and plant the boot..
Drag machines do not last long at all and the cost is prohibitive.  |
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FPV Totara

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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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2000 miles an hour what a studie eh ? No mucking around in your day
Never fails to amaze me how much you know Rob, no replacement for doing an apprenticeship as a mechanic.
| Quote: | | Now Commer had a Rootes supercharger that was a roller type they have less friction than the vane type. |
Is that commer as in commer van ? What's the set up of the vane please Rob ? _________________ The greatest worth is self-mastery |
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rob 2 Totara

Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 912
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: yeah. |
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Oh dear a bit foot heavy on the zeros a. Du Centi is only 200.
Well not commer vans but trucks the right firm though, it was used on a flat six two stroke diesel.
Yes amazed myself with Golden Hawk in 1957 being faster than a rocket.
But the Hawk in 1957 did 200 mph and that was a production thing but limited edition.
I wonder if they were used to go to the moon?
American Graffiti had the Studies in it. The first real custom car even though Ford custom was in 1949 it was all Ford. |
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FPV Totara

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Flat six two stroke diesel, so a flat head like in a flat-head 8 and low light morri ?
Du Centi ? Never heard of it. _________________ The greatest worth is self-mastery |
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rob 2 Totara

Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 912
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: yeah |
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NO no Flat like lying down.
You never heard of Du Centi.
Look hard at American Grafitti.
Studebaker did 200 mph in 1957 and you could order one.
South Bend Indiana.
They never went broke but put their money in General Foods and the chainsaw  |
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FPV Totara

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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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What car in Graffiti ? Place a youtube video of it in here cowboy. Haven't seen any "Dee" videos posted after taking the time out to give you instructions lion boy ? Come on show me the goods - you can do it "Brucie"
What about my vane question etc ? (Have you seen the 2 stroke vs 4 stroke topic ? ) _________________ The greatest worth is self-mastery |
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rob 2 Totara

Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 912
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: yeah |
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I know you gave the instructions but I need a TOY GIRL at my age.
MG posted the Youtube I wanted Dear Johny.
That face was 15 years old what a sweetie.
Super charging is too brutal for road use. With yopu the tyres would not see the week out. Taily at every corner.
Oh yes the GM diesel away back was super charged and 2 stoke. |
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turbophil Totara
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Superchargers have been around for a long time from 1930 race cars, auto union,alfa, merc etc. commer was a 2 stroke diesel that used 2 pistons in each of the 3 cylinders the pistons came in from the outer of the cylinder to a combustion chamber in the middle and were connected by a con rod to a rocker that had another con rod going back in to the crank that was below the cylinders, as with all 2 stroke diesel egines it had to have a supercharger to work ,commer used a Wade s/charger that was a roots type with 2x 3 lob rotors, very compact engine but typicially pommy over complicated. The idea was stolen from the germans who had diesel like this in the JU 88 bomber. biggest problem with super charger is the drive loss, a big s/charger like a GM 12 /71 used on drag cars is they take over 500HP to drive and heat the air more than a turbo Phil
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rob 2 Totara

Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 912
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: yeah |
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From memory the Docksford deisel in ships was like the commer deisel with moving combustion chambers.
A super charger in a plane is a problem as in DC3 it could be disconnected at low altitudes.  |
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